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[Somnolence]

So I was really curious after listening to the show, what is the suggested ban list for B-Class Tribes? I mean I figure the usuals are banned like Goblins, Elves, Kithkin, Faeries, etc. But what about Demons, Dragons, Angels, Birds, etc.? I'd like to know what you would suggest since I'm thinking about trying this out with my playgroup. Can't wait to try out my G/R Apes deck! Keep up the good work!

My suggestions are as follows:
1) If it has several lord effects (all creatures of type X get +1/+1)
2) It has cost reducers, ex. all Rogue spells cost 1 less.
3) It doesn't have a ridiculous number of creatures of that type. For example, Humans, make up 20% of ALL creatures.
4) Other Tight inter-block synergy/Tournament powerhouse. Example, Vampires nowadays or Wizards

You basically have to govern yourselves though. Clerics, as a rule arent all that powerful, but there is a 3 card infinite life combo in there.

Originally, when we first did this, I made a strong case for angels not being "A" as most angels were expensive (mana-wise), they had no cost reducers and no lords, so 20 expensive creatures made for a slow deck. Turns out, in practice you can build a pretty strong angel deck, supported by Wraths and Pyroclasms and the like. So, any list you make, you will need to append to.

Basically, when building a tribal deck I start with, "the trick" and see if I can build from there. There are going to be a lot of creatures, and you have to have a way to deal with them. With the Myr Deck, it was Day of the Dragon, and Soulscour. For my illusion deck, its Ixidron and Pyroclasm. For Christian, its a Urzatron powered Storm Herd followed by a Coat of Arms.

[raijinnfury]

Thanks for the info. Yeah we'll have to set up some rules around what creature types you can use, like if the creature type has more than 50 or so creatures, then it doesn't work or something like that. I tend to make my decks in a similar way though by finding the trick I want to play like Synod Artificer + Unbender Tine + Thran Dynamo for infinite mana in my Artificer tribal deck. I've already made an Apes, Artificers and Volver tribal decks and I have to say that it's an addicting format to build decks for. It really tests your deck building skills while making some hilarious casual decks. I think my next endeavor will probably be Frogs, Minotaurs or Plants but who knows, there's so many good ones to choose from!

[Christian]

Yeah there are so many to choose from. Minotaurs sounds fun, especially with the new Canyon Minotaur and Deadshot Minotaurs. and Tangarth or whatever his name is. I also remember having fun with Talruum Champion

[jars]

don't forget the Didgeridoo in your Minotaur tribe. i think Masters Edition 3 had a minotaur subtheme in it, if you're making your decks online.

[Christian]

Forgot about that card! Nice.

[Stomphoof]

Would you all consider Soliders an A B or C Tribe?

[panahinuva]

An A tribe, un-questionably. They have so many lords and tribal support that it's not even funny. Also, they were one of the main tribes in a tribal set, which also sort of makes them an A list tribe, since it means they got a lot of support.

[Stomphoof]

An A tribe, un-questionably. They have so many lords and tribal support that it's not even funny. Also, they were one of the main tribes in a tribal set, which also sort of makes them an A list tribe, since it means they got a lot of support.

Do you think you could build a Soldier Tribe deck in the current Standard enviroment and have it do well however?

[panahinuva]

Yes.